Estimates (Select Committee).

Oral Answers to Questions — Naval and Military Pensions and Grants. – in the House of Commons at on 14 February 1924.

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Photo of Sir John Marriott Sir John Marriott , City of York

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asked the Prime Minister whether the Government propose to set up again a Select Committee on Estimates; and, if so, whether they propose to give to that Committee the powers proposed by the Select Committee on National Expenditure, 1918?

Photo of Mr John Clynes Mr John Clynes , Manchester Platting

His Majesty's Government propose to ask the House to reappoint the Estimates Committee on the lines adopted in recent years.

Captain BENN:

Does the right hon. Gentleman not think that in view of the changed distribution of parties in this House wider powers should be given to this Committee so that they can guide the Committee of Supply?

Photo of Mr John Clynes Mr John Clynes , Manchester Platting

The Government have not yet had time to reach a decision on the question of the powers referred to.

Photo of Viscount  Curzon Viscount Curzon , Battersea South

Will the right hon. Gentleman give consideration to the appointment of a permanent Secretary to this Committee?

Photo of Mr William Pringle Mr William Pringle , Penistone

Would it not be competent for the House, which is now free, to modify the terms of reference to the Committee, as it pleases?

Photo of Mr Leifchild Jones Mr Leifchild Jones , Rushcliffe

Does the right hon. Gentleman not realise that the Committee on Estimates can be of little value unless it is armed with the powers which the Committee on National Expenditure asked for in 1918?

Photo of Mr John Clynes Mr John Clynes , Manchester Platting

As I have said, the question of powers has to be considered.

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