Business of the House.

– in the House of Commons at on 17 July 1923.

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Mr. J. RAMSAY MacDONALD:

Would the Prime Minister tell us how far he proposes to go to-night with the Orders of the Day?

Photo of Mr Stanley Baldwin Mr Stanley Baldwin , Bewdley

I hope the first six Orders.

Mr. MacDONALD:

Is it proposed to take all the Supply Votes?

Photo of Mr Stanley Baldwin Mr Stanley Baldwin , Bewdley

No. I beg pardon. I am obliged to the hon. Gentleman for calling my attention to that. I am only proposing to take Votes 14 and 15, to sanction certain expenditure which I believe to be necessary.

Photo of Sir James Macpherson Sir James Macpherson , Ross and Cromarty

Do the Government propose to proceed with the proposals in certain Scottish Education Bills from the House of Lords? As my right hon. Friend probably knows, there is a good deal of opposition from all quarters of the House to those Bills.

Photo of Mr Stanley Baldwin Mr Stanley Baldwin , Bewdley

I understand that considerable opposition has been manifested.

Photo of Commander Hon. Joseph Kenworthy Commander Hon. Joseph Kenworthy , Kingston upon Hull Central

May I draw attention to the late position on the Order Paper of the Supply Votes, and will the right hon. Gentleman see that Supply is put down so that we may reasonably expect it to be taken at an earlier hour?

Photo of Mr Stanley Baldwin Mr Stanley Baldwin , Bewdley

I am not clear what the hon. and gallant Member's point is, but the Votes put down for to-night are merely to sanction certain expenditure.

Photo of Commander Hon. Joseph Kenworthy Commander Hon. Joseph Kenworthy , Kingston upon Hull Central

That is exactly my point. Will the right hon. Gentleman see in future that we are not asked to sanction expenditure at a late hour of the night, especially in view of the financial situation of the country?

Photo of Mr Stanley Baldwin Mr Stanley Baldwin , Bewdley

I am sure the hon. and gallant Member will observe that this is the Report stage of these Votes, which have already been discussed in Committee.

Captain BENN:

With reference to the Education (Scotland) Bill, I presume it is only the Second Reading that is to be taken to-night?

Motion made, and Question put, That the Proceedings on Government Business be exempted at this day's Sitting from the provisions of the Standing Order (Sittings of the House.)—[The Prime Minister.]

The House divided: Ayes, 238; Noes, 157.

Division No. 292.]AYES.[3.47 p.m.
Agg-Gardner, Sir James TynteDixon, C. H. (Rutland)Lamb, J. Q.
Ainsworth, Captain CharlesDoyle, N. GrattanLane-Fox, Lieut.-Colonel G. R.
Alexander, E. E. (Leyton, East)Du Pre, Colonel William BaringLloyd-Greame, Rt. Hon. Sir Philip
Alexander, Col. M. (Southwark)Edmondson, Major A. J.Locker-Lampson, G. (Wood Green)
Allen, Lieut.-Col. Sir William JamesEdnam, ViscountLorden, John William
Amery, Rt. Hon. Leopold C. M. S.Elliot, Capt. Walter E. (Lanark)Lorimer, H. D.
Apsley, LordEllis, R. C.Lougher, L.
Ashley, Lt.-Col. Wilfrid W.England, Lieut.-Colonel A.Lowe, Sir Francis William
Astbury, Lieut.-Com. Frederick W.Erskine, Lord (Weston-super-Mare)Loyd, Arthur Thomas (Abingdon)
Astor, ViscountessEvans, Capt. H. Arthur (Leicester, E.)Lumley, L. R.
Baird, Rt. Hon. Sir John LawrenceEyres-Monsell, Com. Rt. Hon. Sir B. M.Macnaghten, Hon. Sir Malcolm
Baldwin, Rt. Hon. StanleyFalle, Major Sir Bertram GodfreyMcNeill, Ronald (Kent, Canterbury)
Balfour, George (Hampstead)Fermor-Hesketh, Major T.Makins, Brigadier-General E.
Banbury, Rt. Hon. Sir Frederick G.Forestier-Walker, L.Malone, Major P. B. (Tottenham, S.)
Barlow, Rt. Hon. Sir MontagueFoxcroft, Captain Charles TalbotManville, Edward
Barnston, Major HarryFrece, Sir Walter deMargesson, H. D. R.
Becker, HarryFurness, G. J.Mercer, Colonel H.
Bell, Lieut.-Col. W. C. H. (Devizes)Ganzoni, Sir JohnMilne, J. S. Wardlaw
Benn, Sir A. S. (Plymouth, Drake)Gardiner, JamesMitchell, Sir W. Lane (Streatham)
Bentinck, Lord Henry Cavendish-Garland, C. S.Molloy, Major L. G. S.
Betterton, Henry B.Gaunt, Rear-Admiral Sir Guy R.Murchison, C. K.
Birchall, Major J. DearmanGilmour, Lt.-Col. Rt. Hon. Sir JohnNall, Major Joseph
Bird, Sir William B. M. (Chichester)Goff, Sir R. ParkNewman, Colonel J. R. P. (Finchley)
Blundell, F. N.Greaves-Lord, WalterNewman, Sir R. H. S. D. L. (Exeter)
Bowyer, Capt. G. E. W.Greene, Lt.-Col. Sir W. (Hack'y, N.)Nicholson, Brig.-Gen. J. (Westminster)
Boyd-Carpenter, Major A.Gretton, Colonel JohnNicholson, William G. (Petersfield)
Brass, Captain W.Guinness, Lieut.-Col. Hon. W. E.Nield, Sir Herbert
Brassey, Sir LeonardGwynne, Rupert S.Norton-Griffiths, Lieut.-Col. Sir John
Bridgeman, Rt. Hon. William CliveHacking, Captain Douglas H.O'Neill, Rt. Hon. Hugh
Briggs, HaroldHall, Rr-Adml Sir W. (Liv'p'l, W. D'by)Ormsby-Gore, Hon. William
Brittain, Sir HarryHalstead, Major D.Paget, T. G.
Brown, Major D. C. (Hexham)Hamilton, Sir George C. (Altrincham)Parker, Owen (Kettering)
Brown, Brig.-Gen. Clifton (Newbury)Hannon, Patrick Joseph HenryPease, William Edwin
Brown, J. W. (Middlesbrough, E.)Harrison, F. C.Pennefather, De Fonblanque
Bruford, R.Harvey, Major S. E.Penny, Frederick George
Bruton, Sir JamesHawke, John AnthonyPercy, Lord Eustace (Hastings)
Buckingham, Sir H.Hay, Major T. W. (Norfolk, South)Perkins, Colonel E. K.
Bull, Rt. Hon. Sir William JamesHenn, Sir Sydney H.Perring, William George
Burn, Colonel Sir Charles RosdewHennessy, Major J. R. G.Peto, Basil E.
Butcher, Sir John GeorgeHerbert, Dennis (Hertford, Watford)Phillipson, Mabel
Butler, H. M. (Leeds, North)Herbert, S. (Scarborough)Pielou, D. P.
Button, H. S.Hewett, Sir J. P.Pownall, Lieut.-Colonel Assheton
Cadogan, Major EdwardHiley, Sir ErnestRaeburn, Sir William H.
Campion, Lieut.-Colonel W. R.Hogg, Rt. Hon. Sir D. (St. Marylebone)Raine, W.
Cassels, J. D.Hood, Sir JosephRankin, Captain James Stuart
Cayzer, Sir C. (Chester, City)Hopkins, John W. W.Rawson, Lieut.-Com. A. C.
Cecil, Rt. Hon. Lord R. (Hitchin)Hopkinson, A. (Lancaster, Mossley)Rees, Sir Beddoe
Chamberlain, Rt. Hn. J. A. (Birm., W.)Houfton, John PlowrightReid, Capt. A. S. C. (Warrington)
Chamberlain, Rt. Hon. N. (Ladywood)Howard, Capt. D. (Cumberland, N.)Rentoul, G. S.
Chapman, Sir S.Howard-Bury, Lieut.-Col. C. K.Reynolds, W. G. W.
Clarry, Reginald GeorgeHudson, Capt. A.Rhodes, Lieut.-Col. J. P.
Clayton, G. C.Hughes, CollingwoodRoberts, Rt. Hon. G. H. (Norwich)
Cobb, Sir CyrilHume, G. H.Roberts, Samuel (Hereford, Hereford)
Cockerill, Brigadier-General G. K.Hurd, Percy A.Robertson-Despencer, Major (Islgtn, W.)
Colfox, Major Wm. PhillipsHurst, Gerald B.Robinson, Sir T. (Lancs, Stretford)
Colvin, Brig.-General Richard BealeHutchison, G. A. C. (Midlothian, N.)Rogerson, Capt. J. E.
Cope, Major WilliamHutchison, W. (Kelvingrove)Roundell, Colonel R. F.
Craig, Captain C. C. (Antrim, South)Inskip, Sir Thomas Walker H.Ruggles-Brise, Major E.
Craik, Rt. Hon. Sir HenryJackson, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. F. S.Russell, Alexander West (Tynemouth)
Croft, Lieut.-Colonel Henry PageJames, Lieut.-Colonel Hon. CuthbertRussell, William (Bolton)
Crook, C. W. (East Ham, North)Jenkins, W. A. (Brecon and Radnor)Russell-Wells, Sir Sydney
Crooke, J. Smedley (Deritend)Jephcott, A. R.Samuel, A. M. (Surrey, Farnham)
Curzon, Captain ViscountJodrell, Sir Neville PaulSanders, Rt. Hon. Sir Robert A.
Davidson, J. C. C. (Hemel Hempstead)Joynson-Hicks, Sir WilliamSandon, Lord
Davies, Alfred Thomas (Lincoln)Kelley, Major Sir Frederick A.Shepperson, E. W.
Davies, Thomas (Cirencester)Kennedy, Captain M. S. NigelSimpson-Hinchliffe, W. A.
Davison, Sir W. H. (Kensington, S.)King, Capt. Henry DouglasSkelton, A. N.
Dixon, Capt. H. (Belfast, E.)Kinloch-Cooke, Sir ClementSomerville, A. A. (Windsor)
Spears, Brig.-Gen. E. L.Tryon, Rt. Hon. George ClementWise, Frederick
Spender-Clay, Lieut.-Colonel H. H.Tubbs, S. W.Wolmer, Viscount
Stanley, LordTurton, Edmund RussboroughWood, Rt. Hn. Edward F. L. (Ripon)
Steel, Major S. StrangWallace, Captain E.Wood, Sir H. K. (Woolwich, West)
Stewart, Gershom (Wirral)Ward, Col. L. (Kingston-upon-Hull)Wood, Maj. Sir S. Hill- (High Peak)
Stockton, Sir Edwin ForsythWard, Col. J. (Stoke-upon-Trent)Worthington-Evans, Rt. Hon. Sir L.
Stott, Lt.-Col. W. H.Waring, Major WalterYate, Colonel Sir Charles Edward
Stuart, Lord C. Crichton-Watts, Dr. T. (Man., Withington)Yerburgh, R. D. T.
Sueter, Rear-Admiral Murray FraserWells, S. R.
Sugden, Sir Wilfrid H.Weston, Colonel John WakefieldTELLERS FOR THE AYES.—
Thompson, Luke (Sunderland)White, Lt.-Col. G. D. (Southport)Colonel Leslie Wilson and Colonel
Thomson, F. C. (Aberdeen, South)Windsor-Clive, Lieut.-Colonel Georgethe Rt. Hon. G. A. Gibbs.
Titchfield, Marquess ofWinterton, Earl
NOES.
Adams, D.Hayes, John Henry (Edge Hill)Ponsonby, Arthur
Adamson, Rt. Hon. WilliamHenderson, Rt. Hon. A. (N'castle, E.)Potts, John S.
Adamson, W. M. (Staff., Cannock)Henderson, T. (Glasgow)Pringle, W. M. R.
Alexander, A. V. (Sheffield, Hillsbro')Herriotts, J.Richards, R.
Attlee, C. R.Hill, A.Richardson, R. (Houghton-le-Spring)
Barker, G. (Monmouth, Abertillery)Hillary, A. E.Riley, Ben
Barnes, A.Hinds, JohnRitson, J.
Barrie, Sir Charles Coupar (Banff)Hirst, G. H.Roberts, C. H. (Derby)
Batey, JosephHodge, Rt. Hon. JohnRobinson, W. C. (York, Elland)
Benn, Captain Wedgwood (Leith)Hutchison, Sir R. (Kirkcaldy)Rose, Frank H.
Bonwick, A.Irving, DanSalter, Dr. A.
Brotherton, J.John, William (Rhondda, West)Sexton, James
Brown, James (Ayr and Bute)Johnston, Thomas (Stirling)Shaw, Hon. Alex. (Kilmarnock)
Buckie, J.Johnstone, Harcourt (Willesden, East)Shaw, Thomas (Preston)
Burgess, S.Jones, Henry Haydn (Merioneth)Shinwell, Emanuel
Buxton, Charles (Accrington)Jones, Morgan (Caerphilly)Short, Alfred (Wednesbury)
Buxton, Noel (Norfolk, North)Jones, R. T. (Carnarvon)Simon, Rt. Hon. Sir John
Clarke, Sir E. C.Jowett, F. W. (Bradford, East)Simpson, J. Hope
Clynes, Rt. Hon. John R.Kenworthy, Lieut.-Commander J. M.Sitch, Charles H.
Collie, Sir JohnKenyon, BarnetSmith, T. (Pontefract)
Collison, LeviKirkwood, D.Snell, Harry
Cotts, Sir William Dingwall MitchellLambert, Rt. Hon. GeorgeSnowden, Philip
Cowan, D. M. (Scottish Universities)Lansbury, GeorgeSpencer, George A. (Broxtowe)
Darbishire, C. W.Lawson, John JamesStephenson, Lieut.-Colonel H. K.
Davies, Rhys John (Westhoughton)Leach, W.Stewart, J. (St. Rollox)
Davison, J. E. (Smethwick)Lee, F.Strauss, Edward Anthony
Dudgeon, Major C. R.Lees-Smith, H. B. (Keighley)Sturrock, J. Leng
Duffy, T. GavanLinfield, F. C.Sullivan, J.
Ede, James ChuterLowth, T.Thorne, W. (West Ham, Plaistow)
Edmonds, G.Lyle-Samuel, AlexanderThornton, M.
Edwards, C. (Monmouth, Bedwellty)McCurdy, Rt. Hon. Charles A.Trevelyan, C. P.
Emlyn-Jones, J. E. (Dorset, N.)MacDonald, J. R. (Aberavon)Turner, Ben
Entwistle, Major C. F.M'Entee, V. L.Wellhead, Richard C.
Falconer, J.McLaren, AndrewWalsh, Stephen (Lancaster, Ince)
Fildes, HenryMacnamara, Rt. Hon. Dr. T. J.Warne, G. H.
Fisher, Rt. Hon. Herbert A. L.Macpherson, Rt. Hon. James I.Watson, W. M. (Dunfermline)
Foot, IsaacMarch, S.Watts-Morgan, Lt.-Col. D. (Rhondda)
Gosling, HarryMartin, F. (Aberd'n & Kinc'dine, E.)Webb, Sidney
Graham, W. (Edinburgh, Central)Millar, J. D.Wedgwood, Colonel Josiah C.
Gray, Frank (Oxford)Morel, E. D.Weir, L. M.
Greenall, T.Morrison, R. C. (Tottenham, N.)Westwood, J.
Greenwood, A. (Nelson and Colne)Mosley, OswaldWhiteley, W.
Grenfell, D. R. (Glamorgan)Muir, John W.Williams, David (Swansea, E.)
Griffiths, T. (Monmouth, Pontypool)Murnin, H.Williams, Dr. J. H. (Llanelly)
Grundy, T. W.Murray, John (Leeds, West)Williams, T. (York, Don Valley)
Hall, F. (York, W. R. Normanton)Murray, R. (Renfrew, Western)Wilson, C. H. (Sheffield, Attercliffe)
Hall, G. H. (Merthyr Tydvil)O'Connor, Thomas P.Wintringham, Margarel
Hamilton, Sir R. (Orkney & Shetland)O'Grady, Captain JamesWood, Major M. M. (Aberdeen, C.)
Hancock, John GeorgeOliver, George HaroldWright, W.
Harbord, ArthurPaling, W.Young, Rt. Hon. E. H. (Norwich)
Hardie, George D.Parker, H. (Hanley)Young, Robert (Lancaster, Newton)
Hay, Captain J. P. (Cathcart)Parkinson, John Allen (Wigan)
Hayday, ArthurPattinson, S. (Horncastle)TELLERS FOR THE NOES.—
Mr. Spears and Mr. Lunn.

Question put, and agreed to.