Murders and Outrages.

Oral Answers to Questions — Ireland. – in the House of Commons on 30th March 1922.

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Photo of Mr John Gretton Mr John Gretton , Burton

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asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether the perpetrators of the murders of the police in St. Bride's Home, Galway, or the muderer of Sergeant Gloster in Cork, or the robbers who raided Ennistymon Rectory and stole a considerable amount of property therefrom, or the committers of many similar illegalities and crimes in Ireland, have been arrested and proceeded against by the administration of the Irish Free State?

Photo of Sir Harry Barnston Sir Harry Barnston , Eddisbury

My right hon. Friend regrets to state that no arrests have yet been made in connection with the Galway murders of the 15th instant, or the more recent murder of ex-Sergeant Gloster. In the case of the raid on Kilmanaheen Rectory, Ennistymon, the investigations made have resulted in the recovery of the stolen property to the extent of £111, but none of the culprits has yet been arrested. The number of arrests for various crimes made under the authority of the Provisional Government is considerable. My right hon. Friend regrets that he cannot give the exact numbers; but as the House is aware two men are being tried for the recent murder of Mr. Max Green in Dublin, and four men are in custody in connection with the murders of Lieutenant Meade and Sergeant Cunliffe.

Photo of Lieut-Colonel Martin Archer-Shee Lieut-Colonel Martin Archer-Shee , Finsbury

Can the hon. and gallant Gentleman say whether representations have been made to the Provisional Government with reference to the murder of Sergeant Gloster and with what results?

Photo of Viscount  Wolmer Viscount Wolmer , Aldershot

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asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies how many murders of, and cases of assault on, private individuals by armed men have occurred in Southern Ireland since the signing of the Treaty; how many cases of compulsory levies of money and private property by armed men have occurred in Southern Ireland during the same period; what is the total amount of money, and private property, respectively, taken under such compulsory levies; in how many cases have the cattle of individuals, which had been driven off, been returned; in how many cases have the lands and houses of private individuals been confiscated by armed men in Southern Ireland during the same period; and in how many cases have the houses and property of individuals been entered upon by armed men in the same area and during the same period in order to compel the owners thereof to give in to illegal demands?

Photo of Sir Harry Barnston Sir Harry Barnston , Eddisbury

My right hon. Friend regrets that he can add nothing to the reply given yesterday to a similar question asked by the hon. Member for Kensington South.

Photo of Viscount  Curzon Viscount Curzon , Battersea South

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asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies if the special constables captured at Clones have yet been released; if the murderers of Lieutenant Gronochio, Captain Meade, and Sergeant Cunliffe have been apprehended: if not, whether any steps are now being taken to catch the assassins: and whether any joint inquiry into these assassinations is to be held?

Photo of Sir Harry Barnston Sir Harry Barnston , Eddisbury

The special constables captured at Clones on the 11th ultimo have not yet been released. No arrests have yet been made in connection with the murder of Lieutenant Gronochio, and the question of holding a joint inquiry into this case is still under consideration. My right hon. Friend understands that four persons have been arrested by the forces of the Provisional Government on suspicion of complicity in the murder of Lieutenant Meade and Sergeant Cunliffe.

Photo of Viscount  Curzon Viscount Curzon , Battersea South

How much longer does the hon. and gallant Gentleman expect we shall have to wait before a decision is come to as to whether or not a joint inquiry is to be held into these deaths?

Photo of Sir Harry Barnston Sir Harry Barnston , Eddisbury

I will convey that query to my right hon. Friend.

Photo of Mr John Gretton Mr John Gretton , Burton

Is it known where the special constables are confined, and when they will be released?

Photo of Sir Harry Barnston Sir Harry Barnston , Eddisbury

I cannot answer that.

Photo of Mr John Gretton Mr John Gretton , Burton

(by Private notice) asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies if he has any information which he can give to the House as to the circumstances of the murder of two men at Crossmaglen, South Armagh, the attack upon the Belcoo Police Barracks, and the kidnapping of 17 policemen; if he knows what has become of these men; and whether any arrests have been made?

Photo of Viscount  Curzon Viscount Curzon , Battersea South

(by Private Notice) asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether he can state what took place yesterday at Belcoo, Crossmaglen, Adavoyle, Ballycastle, in Cork, at Drog-heda, and on the Enniskillen-Sligo railway at Renmore; whether four British officers in a motor car were fired upon at a point close to Dublin from an ex-military lorry; and whether a motor car belonging to and driven by General Sir H. S. Jeudwine was stolen close to Naas?

Photo of Mr Hamar Greenwood Mr Hamar Greenwood , Sunderland

On behalf of my right hon. Friend the Colonial Secretary, who is engaged in the Irish Conference, I have been asked to answer these two questions. On receipt of the questions they were telegraphed to Ireland for reply, and I will read to the House the whole of the reply as received up to the present: With the exception of the attack near Dublin on the four British officers, none of whom were injured, and the seizure of General Jeudwine's car, both of which are confirmed by the British military authorities in Dublin, I have not yet received any official reports of these outrages, and I have no information except what has appeared in the Press. The military authorities have no evidence that the attack on the four British officers was made from an ex-military lorry.

Photo of Mr John Gretton Mr John Gretton , Burton

Can the right hon. Gentleman say who was the sender of the telegram which he has just read?

Photo of Mr Hamar Greenwood Mr Hamar Greenwood , Sunderland

This comes an official in Dublin Castle, who is in communication with the military authorities.

Photo of Lord Robert Cecil Lord Robert Cecil , Hitchin

A British official?

Photo of Mr Hamar Greenwood Mr Hamar Greenwood , Sunderland

Certainly, an official of His Majesty's Government, who is a civil servant paid by a Vote of this House. I would remind the House of the increasing difficulty of getting specific information on a given outrage from any part of Ireland. I regret that profoundly, as I am sure the House will. It makes it very difficult for my right hon. Friend the Colonial Secretary or myself to give more detailed answers to Private Notice questions.

Photo of Lieut-Colonel Wilfrid Ashley Lieut-Colonel Wilfrid Ashley , Fylde

Has not Dublin Castle been taken over by the Provisional Government, and what is a British official doing there?

Photo of Mr Hamar Greenwood Mr Hamar Greenwood , Sunderland

Until the Bill which I hope will be before the House at the earliest date becomes an Act, certain officials of His Majesty's Government are still functioning in Ireland.

Photo of Viscount  Curzon Viscount Curzon , Battersea South

Do I understand the right hon. Gentleman to say that he has no information with regard to the outrages on officers which I cited, and which have taken place on or adjacent to the border?

Photo of Mr Hamar Greenwood Mr Hamar Greenwood , Sunderland

I have read to the House all the information that I have.