asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether any regulations have been made to prevent Indians from travelling first-class in Tanganyika mandated territory; and whether he is aware that an Indian who held a first-class ticket was recently forcibly removed from a first-class carriage ostensibly because of some such regulation?
I have made inquiry of the Governor of the territory, and am informed that it is the case that certain restrictions of a temporary nature were in force, but have now been withdrawn. I have no knowledge of the incident referred to.
asked the Secretary of State for the Colonies whether he will communicate to this House the arrangements recently come to or attempted regarding the Indian question in Kenya; whether he has consulted the delegation from the Kenya Indians on the matter or only Lord Delamere and the European delegation; and why the Resolution of Equal Rights made by the Premiers' Conference has not been acted upon in East Africa?
The negotiations conducted locally by the Governor of Kenya have unfortunately failed to reveal any common ground for settlement between the European and Indian communities. I do not think that it would conduce to a settlement if I were to make any detailed announcement at this stage. I have not consulted with the European or the Indian delegation, but the former asked for an interview with me, which I have given, and if the delegation representing the Kenya Indians also desire an interview I shall be happy to meet their wishes. The application of the resolution of the Imperial Conference to any part of the Empire must depend on the local circumstances, and the hon. and gallant Member will be aware that the first part of the resolution, dealing with the control of immigration, presents, in the case of Kenya, as much difficulty as the second part, that deals with the rights of citizenship of Indians already lawfully domiciled in the territory.
I have been for a long time in the closest discussion and negotiation with the India Office, and the statement which I made will, I think, be found to fall within the general limits of the policy which will ultimately be agreed upon between the two Departments, but we have to represent very different interests and to do our best by them.
I was very careful, in choosing the words which I used, to frame the stab merit in such, a way as to embody what I believe to be the real position at the present time. I carefully wrote them clown and followed exactly what my departmental advisers recommended to me—and what my own judgment confirmed—as the actual situation. I have not in this matter yet specifically consulted the Cabinet. An enormous mass of business has to proceed, and decisions have to be taken in every department of the administration of the Colonial Office, and cannot be, in every case, specifically referred to the Cabinet. I do not think there is any serious difficulty in bringing the policy which the needs of Kenya require, within the ambit of the very general Resolution passed by the Imperial Conference, to which I am a party.
Is it not a fact that there is a third party concerned in this question—the natives of East Africa—and does the right hon. Gentleman know that those of us who are associated with white settlers in Africa greatly resent the attacks made upon our co-settlers by hon. Gentlemen opposite?