Part of Orders of the Day — National Expenditure. – in the House of Commons at on 9 December 1920.
I pause for the moment to respond to the invitation of my right hon. Friend (Mr. Lambert). With the knowledge of an old Admiralty hand he examined some of the Admiralty figures, and he said with perfect truth that there was no justification for the numbers employed in the dockyards to-day except the desire of the Government to mitigate instead of increase the problem of the out of work. That is quite true. It illustrates one of our difficulties. There are to-day, I think, 16,000 more men in the dockyards and 17,000 more men in the arsenals and similar establishments than there were before the War. For some of these men employment has been found on work which the dockyards or arsenals have contracted, so to speak, work for which they will be repaid. But even so, when all allowance is made for that, the numbers are what they are, not because we want the men, but because we do not wish to increase the problem of unemployment in areas where it is already very great. My right hon. Friend was right, and the Government feel that we cannot continue indefinitely upon those lines, and though we are more reluctant than ever to increase discharges at present, we shall have to offer the men employed in these establishments the choice of further discharges or the acceptance by them of that system of partial employment which is being accepted in the great Lancashire cotton trade and, I think, in the great Yorkshire woollen industry. If they will co-operate with us in that we will maintain the number now employed. We might even be able to add to them. If they do not co-operate they cannot expect the taxpayer to go on indefinitely paying workmen for work which he does not want.