Battle of Jutland.

Oral Answers to Questions — Royal Navy. – in the House of Commons at on 8 December 1920.

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Photo of Commander Hon. Joseph Kenworthy Commander Hon. Joseph Kenworthy , Kingston upon Hull Central

11.

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether the full Report of the Harper Committee on the Battle of Jutland has been supplied to the Royal Naval Staff College for the use of officer-students and their instructors?

Photo of Lieut-Colonel James Craig Lieut-Colonel James Craig , Down Mid

I would refer the hon. and gallant Member to my reply to the same question on the 1st December and add that his reference to the full Report of the Harper Committee on the battle of Jutland shows him to be under a misapprehension. As I have already explained in reply to other questions, Captain Harper did not draw up any Report on the battle, but simply a record of events based on official British documents.

Photo of Commander Hon. Joseph Kenworthy Commander Hon. Joseph Kenworthy , Kingston upon Hull Central

Has the record of events been placed at the disposal of the Royal Naval College, and in view of the fact that the students and instructors of the Royal Naval College are the principal means of drawing up a sound doctrine for the future of the Navy how can they do that without full information?

Photo of Lieut-Colonel James Craig Lieut-Colonel James Craig , Down Mid

I think I answered that question last Wednesday.

Photo of Commander Hon. Joseph Kenworthy Commander Hon. Joseph Kenworthy , Kingston upon Hull Central

Can the hon. Gentleman tell me whether the materials gathered by Captain Harper and his committee have been placed at the disposal of the Royal Naval College?

Photo of Lieut-Colonel James Craig Lieut-Colonel James Craig , Down Mid

I answered that question last Wednesday. I think there were three supplementary questions, and I did my best to answer them.

Photo of Commander Hon. Joseph Kenworthy Commander Hon. Joseph Kenworthy , Kingston upon Hull Central

I beg to give notice that I will raise this matter on the Adjournment to-morrow.

Photo of Mr Thomas Adair Mr Thomas Adair , Glasgow Shettleston

12.

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether, amongst other documents relating to the battle of Jutland, he will publish the accounts given by the gunnery officer of the "Derfflinger" of his experiences in the battle and the official reports made by Admirals Hipper and Scheer?

Photo of Lieut-Colonel James Craig Lieut-Colonel James Craig , Down Mid

Admiral Scheer's report, which is the only official German report in the possession of the Admiralty, will be published among the other official documents relating to the battle.

Photo of Mr Thomas Adair Mr Thomas Adair , Glasgow Shettleston

Can the hon. Gentleman say whether this so-called secret report of Admiral Von Scheer to the German Emperor, which, according to to-day's newspapers, is to be published in Germany, is known to the Admiralty, and will be published?

Photo of Lieut-Colonel James Craig Lieut-Colonel James Craig , Down Mid

I am afraid that I have not seen the papers to-day, and I cannot answer without notice.

Photo of Viscount  Curzon Viscount Curzon , Battersea South

Can the hon. Gentleman say whether the first part of the question is not to be considered to be answered in the affirmative?

Photo of Lieut-Colonel James Craig Lieut-Colonel James Craig , Down Mid

I have answered that. The only German official report in the possession of the Admiralty will be published.

Photo of Viscount  Curzon Viscount Curzon , Battersea South

13.

asked the First Lord of the Admiralty whether the refusal to include the Harper diagrams in the Jutland papers may be reconsidered; and whether, in the interests of economy as well as of historical accuracy, he will recognise the peculiar advantages to be derived from the pub lication of the original track-charts, as correlated by Captain Harper, a highly skilled expert in navigation, rather than by the publication of track-charts of individual units, which, by reason of high speed, frequent alterations of course, and other disconcerting factors during the battle, must inevitably be liable to certain margins of errors?

Photo of Lieut-Colonel James Craig Lieut-Colonel James Craig , Down Mid

As I explained in my reply on the 1st December, the inclusion of Captain Harper's diagrams would be quite outside the scope of the Jutland Papers as promised by the Prime Minister.

Photo of Viscount  Curzon Viscount Curzon , Battersea South

Does the hon. Gentleman think that records kept by certain ships constantly under helm and under fire are as reliable as those correlated by Captain Harper in his very exhaustive inquiry?

Photo of Lieut-Colonel James Craig Lieut-Colonel James Craig , Down Mid

That question also has been answered on former occasions. Facts were asked for, and the facts at the disposal of the Admiralty, which have been promised by the Prime Minister, will be published.

Lieut.-Colonel A. MURRAY:

Can the hon. Gentleman say why it is outside the scope of the Prime Minister's promise to supply this information?

Photo of Lieut-Colonel James Craig Lieut-Colonel James Craig , Down Mid

If my hon. Friend had been in the House and had heard the series of questions which were put and answered he would have thoroughly understood the differentiation between Captain Harper's report and official records.

Photo of Mr Carlyon Bellairs Mr Carlyon Bellairs , Maidstone

As we are to get so little out of the Harper report, will the hon. Gentleman give the expenses of this committee of four officers which made exhaustive inquiry and provided a narrative?

Photo of Mr Thomas Adair Mr Thomas Adair , Glasgow Shettleston

Is the hon. Gentleman aware that the official despatches will be so much Greek to the general public and to most of the Members of this House, and that it is only by such a report as Captain Harper's that anything intelligible can be made out of them?

Photo of Lieut-Colonel James Craig Lieut-Colonel James Craig , Down Mid

The hon. and gallant Member will recollect that that was the attitude which the Admiralty took up in the first instance; but the demand of the House for immediate publication of the official documents was granted by the Prime Minister. So we had no other alternative. The Admiralty was rather turned down by the House as to the procedure which they proposed to take, and which we were advised was the best course.

Photo of Viscount  Curzon Viscount Curzon , Battersea South

Did not the Admiralty themselves object to the publication of the Harper report?

Photo of Lieut-Colonel James Craig Lieut-Colonel James Craig , Down Mid

My Noble Friend knows that in the first instance the Admiralty proposed to hand over the Captain Harper report and all documents bearing on this question to the historian of the War and to leave it to him to correlate and bring the whole thing out in consecutive order. My Noble Friend was one of those who objected most strongly to that, and it was only at the desire of himself and other Members that the official records are being published.

Photo of Lieut-Colonel James Craig Lieut-Colonel James Craig , Down Mid

Because it is not official.

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