Examination of Witnesses
Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders bill
Steve Hynes: If you want the figures, they are here. Page 27 of Bowles and Perry’s report has chapter and verse. It does not have Germany, which is a federal system and spends slightly more. We spend €80, Sweden €71, Netherlands €90 and France €51. Germany is actually about €90 per head of population, but it is a bit more like a common law jurisdiction because it is has a federal system. So its costs are higher because it is analogous to a federal system like Canada or the common law world.