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James Clappison (Shadow Minister, Work & Pensions; Hertsmere, Conservative)

I think your estimate is that the majority of people will actually be in the other group, to which conditionality should apply. That is the non-support group and there will be many people involved, including many existing claimants over 50.

The White Paper says:

“most existing claimants over the age of 50 will be offered a single Work Focused Interview, with the opportunity to take up further support on a voluntary basis.”

Is that what it all amounts to under the provisions that you were telling us about under clause 8 and the extra help and support? Is that the sum total?

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