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Greg Hands (Shadow Minister, Treasury; Hammersmith and Fulham, Conservative)

I am sorry, but it really is not on that the hon. Lady is unable to tell us even what the variables are. I appreciate that she is not in a position to give us the entire model, but surely she could give us just the basic variables involved. For example, is the level of fly-tipping and the cost of cleaning it up one of the variables in the model? It seems to me that it should be.

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