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Steve Webb (Northavon, Liberal Democrat)

So in terms of the Committee assessing the value of the proposals—we could all spend £2 billion or £3 billion making the benefits system better—can I just be clear that the assumption that you get that money back takes no account of the fact that the people you think would be able to get into work would displace another set of people to whom you then pay benefit? Have you allowed for that in your costings?

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