Sarah McCarthy-Fry: But the primary care trust is a partner—we come back to the children’s trust board and the children and young people’s plan, which says that those involved must have regard to the number of children’s centres that they need to meet the statutory requirement. The whole purpose of what we are doing with Sure Start children’s centres, children’s trust boards and the children and young people’s plan is to join up services to ensure that we achieve locally what you are referring to.

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