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Stephen Timms (Chief Secretary, HM Treasury; East Ham, Labour)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way, especially as I failed to give way to him, for which I apologise. The point that I emphasised was that for large businesses, and separately for small businesses, the packages are fiscally neutral in each of the years set out in the scorecard in the Red Book. It is not as a whole a business package, but it works separately for large and for small businesses.

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