Clause38
Commons Bill [Lords]
1:00 pm
Jim Knight (Parliamentary Under-Secretary (Rural Affairs, Landscape and Biodiversity), Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs; South Dorset, Labour)
I was talking about electric fencingwhen we stopped, and I hope that I had said enough to persuade theCommittee and the hon. Member for South-East Cambridgeshire (Mr. Paice)that electric fencing can be just as much of an impediment to access aspermanent fencing. We remain concerned that we should not exclude itspecifically.
I wastalking about amendment No. 55 and the definitional problems that theword “permanent” might present. In any case, we do notsubscribe to the premise that what one might call temporary fencingshould simply be left out of the scope of the controls.
I have a note in respect of thecontribution from my hon. Friend the Member for Stroud (Mr. Drew), whoI am pleased to see returning to his place, that says that we all knowof cases where stables on sleds are claimed to be temporary underplanning legislation but remain in place for years. I personally wasnot familiar with stables on sleds, but there are all sorts of ways ofconfusing the notion of things being temporary or permanent. We need totreat the whole subject with some care.