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Charities Bill [Lords]
12:00 pm
Helen Goodman (Bishop Auckland, Labour)
I am most sympathetic to the hon. Gentleman’s arguments. In a sense, to go back to the discussion that we had about religion, he is saying that we have moved on from the idea that the world is here simply for our pleasure and that we can exploit and use it. He is right if he is talking about whether all the value of the natural environment is to be measured in terms of the pleasure that we derive from it. Is that the point that he is making?