Clause 3 - Graduated fixed penalty points
Road Safety Bill
3:30 pm

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Mr David Wilshire (Assistant Chief Whip, Whips; Spelthorne, Conservative)

I accept what the Minister says, but as I listened to him I began to feel a bit hard done by. Does he accept that, although I do not have a huge number of civil servants to come up with a beautifully honed argument, I was saying before, when I was being questioned, ''What, exactly, is the Minister saying?'' Let us have a discussion. Here are some figures; let us talk about them. We are not necessarily wedded to them. I am grateful to the Minister for using better language than I could find.

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