[Part II]
Hunting Bill
7:30 pm
Mr John Gummer (Suffolk Coastal, Conservative)
Does my hon. Friend accept that Ministers are normally prepared to defend their proposals in such situations? I can remember many occasions on which the Opposition pressed me as a Minister to explain a particular point. The Minister has been asked politely why he has chosen the figure of two, but he has said only that he has chosen two because he has chosen two. That is surely not a satisfactory position for him to take, and—