Committee (4th Day)

Part of Scotland Bill – in the House of Lords at 6:15 pm on 15 March 2012.

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Photo of Lord Forsyth of Drumlean Lord Forsyth of Drumlean Conservative 6:15, 15 March 2012

I have the Explanatory Notes to the Scotland Act here. They state:

"Section 30 ... permits certain alterations to be made to the legislative competence of the Scottish Parliament but only with the agreement of both Parliaments".

As I am sure my noble friend will agree, tax has always been dealt with entirely differently, not least in the exclusion of this House from consideration of tax matters since the 1911 Act. Tax is dealt with by a procedure under the Finance Act and is subject to a proper Committee stage on the Floor of the House of Commons. I believe that that is still the case. To suggest moving to a situation in which taxes can be introduced and imposed by orders-which are not amendable and which, traditionally, we do not vote against in this House-is to stretch the elastic to breaking point.