Committee (1st Day)

Part of Health and Social Care Bill – in the House of Lords at 7:00 pm on 25 October 2011.

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Photo of Earl Howe Earl Howe The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Health 7:00, 25 October 2011

I know that is the noble Lord's concern and of course I understand it. However, it is the policy of the Government to confer functions where they best sit. If the Secretary of State were to intervene at any whiff of trouble, it would run counter to that vision. I believe that there will be ample scope in the next set of amendments to talk about this very subject; but it is very important to understand that we have quite deliberately taken the view that functions, duties and responsibilities should sit with individual bodies and that the Secretary of State should be there to ensure, to the public and Parliament, that those bodies fulfil their duties and functions correctly.

I suggest that we defer the particular issue raised by the noble Lord, Lord Owen-about the degree of system failure that has to occur before the Secretary of State intervenes-to the next set of amendments. The amendment we are dealing with now has to do with the ultimate accountability of the Secretary of State for the education and training system-which I am saying to the Committee is there in our amendment.