Edward Garnier (Shadow Minister, Justice; Harborough, Conservative)

I agree with what Mrs. Humble said about part 6 of the Bill, and with what Mr. Marshall-Andrews said in his intervention. However, I want to deal with an earlier and a later part of the Bill.

A great number of participants this evening have drawn attention to the speech made by Mark Durkan, and they were right to do so. I also pay tribute to the speech made by my hon. Friend Mr. Goodman. The vast majority of the speeches have been contrary to the Government's position, and a feeling is emerging that terrorism will be broken and deterred or inhibited only with the co-operation of the minority to whom it is designed to appeal. To seek a battle over the number 42 as opposed to 90, as the Government appear to be doing, will not reassure the majority and will simply feed the sense of victimhood of the minority. In short, it is merely a branch of gesture politics.

I say that in the context of a Bill that includes clause 59, which deals with the appointment of special advocates in matters to do with the seizing of the assets of those who have been convicted of terrorist offences. The clause provides for a relevant Law Officer to appoint a person to represent the interests of the party to the asset-freezing proceedings. I am staggered that in clause 59(2) the Government are pleased to announce that a person who is appointed as a special advocate is not responsible to the party to the proceedings whose interests this person is appointed to represent. If we are to consider the rights of the individual in that context, there is not much hope for any of us.

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